Okay, I give up.
I tried to like Gotham, honest, I did. Despite my previous reservations, I tuned into the first two episodes like everyone else in the geek-o-sphere did. And you know what, I didn’t hate it. At least not as much as I was anticipating. In fact, some of what I saw was quite good. But the problems I had remained. Namely, that the whole conceit of the show is that it exists in the Batman universe. Also, the acting is pretty horrible. I’m looking at you, Ben and Jada!
If this were just a typical police procedural, I’d find it pretty entertaining (even though I’m not a fan of the genre). Where the show loses me, though, is that it fundamentally misunderstands the universe in which it has chosen to partake. Case in point? They’ve just cast 34-year old actor Nicholas D’Agosto to play Harvey Dent.
Why is this a problem? Well, first of all, Bruce Wayne is only 9 years old on the show (Or is he 11? Either way, he ain’t 30). Harvey and Bruce should be roughly the same age. On the show, though, turns out Dent will be an Assistant D.A. already. In other words, Harvey Dent is basically Rachel Dawes in Batman Begins, except at this point in that film, Rachel was still playing tag with Bruce.
This is a problem with most, if not all of the characters on the show. They shouldn’t even exist yet. Every major player in the Bat mythos — save for Selina Kyle and Poison “Ivy” — are each ten to twenty to even thirty years older than Bruce already. Even the members of the Gotham police force are all characters out of time.
Upon hearing the news of Dent’s arrival on the show, I had the following convo with Will, one of the NOC’s other resident Bat Nerds.
WILL: I am SO MAD about this news! Batman’s villains and allies are gonna be a bunch of 50 year olds by the time he comes along. I’m done with this show!
ME: It is so confused about what kind of show it should be. Is it a police procedural about the GCPD? Or is it about Bruce’s formative years? Because it can’t be both. And that’s the problem. Honestly, they should’ve just gone the Gotham Central route and cast an older Gordon, with say, Bryan Cranston in the role.
WILL: Exactly, especially when there’s nothing really interesting about a young Gordon. Even when he transfers from Chicago in the comics, he’s middle aged. He’s simply too young here. They really should just go the Gotham Central route, and forget about Bruce. Hell, they should time jump next season to where he’s already Batman, and he’s just in the background of these police cases.
ME: It’s not like a Young Bruce Wayne show couldn’t work. I could see a way for how such a show could be done, I suppose. But you’d have to commit to making ALL OF THE CHARACTERS young. Like, you could totally have Oswald and Harvey be contemporaries of Bruce’s. Cast Oswald as a snotty, Draco Malfoy-type and make Harvey Bruce’s best friend.
But the route they’ve taken on the show is just confused. I mean, most of these characters shouldn’t even be on the show. They’ve basically made Bullock into Det. Flass. Problem is Bullock ain’t Flass. He’s Bullock.
Also, why are Montoya and Allen even there (and Sarah Essen)? The GCPD is supposed to be an entirely corrupt force, so why are the good cops all already there? There’s no point for Gordon to be there.
WILL: I hate the characterization of Bullock. I hate that they couldn’t even wait until season two to introduce Allen and Montoya. Who’s gonna be left when Bruce grows up?
ME: Like, at least make them beat cops or something. Why are they all detectives already? And Essen is captain? Guess no one gets promoted (except Gordon) in 20 years.
WILL: I can’t sit through the show. I can only take 15 minute increments, which hurts my credibility. Everything I hear about it, though, just makes me hate it even more. Apparently Professor Pyg and Zsasz are on the way.
ME: I’ve heard some folks compare Gotham to Smallville. Well, as an avowed Smallville fan, I have to say that is an utterly false equivalence. In fact, a young Clark Kent show works for all of the reasons that a young Bruce doesn’t. Clark’s years in Smallville actually WERE formative to who he is as Superman. Other than being where his parents were murdered, Gotham doesn’t have the same resonance for Bruce.
WILL: Exactly! The only thing Gotham does for Bruce is it provides a setting for his parents’ murder. His training and development happen AWAY from the city.
N’JAILA: This show is crappity crap.
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Yes….I know we’re in the minority on this one….but I couldn’t agree more! We wanted to like Gotham….we tried very hard to like Gotham….but in the end….nope….just not good.
Couldn’t have said it better myself! Though….we are definitely in the minority right now.
I am next to the Gargoyle on this one. Why the hell is this show so OFF? I don’t think it was bad–for people who know nothing about Batman besides the Bat Signal and the Batmobile, but it’s just wrong. On a different note, did anyone else laugh near the end of the pilot where that old man gets killed over a sandwich?
Arrow already hits all the spots a Batman-without-Batman show needs to hit, making this show somewhat redundant. They even use some Bat-villains (Deathstroke, Ra’s al-Ghul).
I love that crap B level shows like Arrow are beloved by you folks and Well acted, well paced shows like GOTHAM are attacked for making changes that would only matter if the show lasts 20 years.
Consider this a Elseworlds show and grow up! Arrow and the Flash pilot at least are fun, Smallville level shows that have horrific acting and writing and are aimed at a 10 year-old intelligence.
Already in two episodes Gotham has shown much better character development, we see Batman being born little by little every week, and much better scripts and acting than collectively all the previous B level DC shows.
It’s bad enough that 52 has ruined the comics and the animated movies (which was once DC’s pride and joy) but you folks are so wrapped up in fanboy logistics that you can’t enjoy the first A level product DC/WB has put on primetime.
Sadness.. SciFi fans deserve the crappy Wharehouse 13/StarGate B level crap they get..
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